[Anubad] Fwd: SuMo KB in bn-BD & bn-IN locales :: A new perspective

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

For those who haven't been following this conversation -
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/mozilla.sumo/ugF3aRLs8lM/Pocon1p0X3wJ>

Make what you will of this. As of right now I am utterly devastated
that members of our own group would choose to deliberately mislead and
spread untruths.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Michal Dziewonski <mdziewonski at mozilla.com>
Date: Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: SuMo KB in bn-BD & bn-IN locales :: A new perspective
To: Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com>
Cc: "sumo at lists.mozilla.org" <Sumo at lists.mozilla.org>, Jeffrey Beatty
<jbeatty at mozilla.com>


Sankarshan,

Here's a quote from Jeff's email summarising the discussion in
Portland. I am also CCing Jeff to make sure he's away of the current
status of the pilot.

"Hi all,

I wanted to follow up from previous conversations with an update on
our Bengali l10n community. We had a good discussion in Portland
between Biraj, Soumya Chakerboty, and Mak. The discussion was framed
around identifying the needs of the Bengali-speaking user in the
region. We were able to maintain that focus to an extent, but
inter-community conflict issues also became a focal point in the
discussion. It was clear that the bn-BD members were in favor of
merging efforts and saw the advantages for the user. The
locale-specific conventions (currency, time and date format, etc.)
could be automated in order to provide the best user experience for
the user. The bn-IN members were not in favor of merging efforts. They
saw a merger as throwing away a lot of their good work and as an
unjustified action, as they have performed excellently as their own
community. They also cited come conflicts they've had with members of
the bn-BD community. Eventually, the conversation moved to directing
attention at the bn-IN members to address why merging didn't make
sense to them. Had the discussion continued, it would have become more
accusatory, defensive, and unproductive, so we put a pin in it and
decided to revisit the discussion at a later date.

After the discussion (and Michel & Arky can add more details here),
Mak and Biraj were able to come to an agreement to use SUMO as a pilot
for merging efforts. It seems both communities struggle to adequately
cover SUMO article translation. I'm unaware of the specifications of
this pilot. Axel, Arky, and I are traveling to India in February and
plan to get Biraj and Mak together again to continue the discussion
there.

If anyone has more details to offer, please feel free to do so here.
We're also happy to answer any questions about the discussion.

Thanks,
Jeff"

To the best of my knowledge, there are no other notes from that
meeting available.

Cheers,

Michał
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2015-06-18 12:03 GMT+02:00 Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
<sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com>:
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Michal Dziewonski
> <mdziewonski at mozilla.com> wrote:
> > What I do have is native speakers in both locales agreeing that the
> > differences between the locales are small enough to enable the users to
> > benefit from existing localization for either of the locales.
>
> Michal, thank you for taking time to respond. I am hoping that
> individuals/staff members/Mozilla associates before you would be able
> to respond to some, if not all the points I have sought detail about.
>
> Meanwhile, would it be possible for you to point me to specific
> instances where native speakers have publicly and on record identified
> these small differences as being not an impediment to allow users to
> benefit from either locale?
>
>
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